Chargers Draft Grades

 

18. 3-4 DE Corey Liuget C-

From now on, I’m figuring out what I think the Chargers will do and then mocking someone else. They never do what you think they’re going to do. Cameron Jordan would have been a perfect fit here at 18. I had it in my mock. He’s my best available by far at his position and fills a major need and many, many people agreed with me. Instead they reach for a prospect I don’t particularly like, especially in a 3-4.

50. S Marcus Gilchrist D

Marcus Gilchrist is a tweener and I don’t think he can start at either safety or cornerback in the NFL. Cornerback and safety depth were needed and Gilchrist can also return kicks, but he was way too big of a reach in the 2nd round.

61. MLB Jonas Mouton F

This was the biggest reach of the draft and I don’t even think he fits the scheme. I don’t even care that he fills a need. This is an F. I will be very surprised if Mouton is anything other than a special teamer in his career.

82. WR Vincent Brown B

This one wasn’t as big of a reach as their first three. I like Brown more than most do and Malcom Floyd and Vincent Jackson are both not signed long term, so wide receiver is a need, but I think something like right tackle or rush linebacker was a bigger need for them and also Brown is a minor reach.

89. CB Shareece Wright C+

I guess this says where Gilchrist is playing. Wright provides necessary cornerback depth, but they could have gotten this later. They had bigger needs in the 3rd round and Wright is a reach by at least a round.

183. RB Jordan Todman A

This was a really, really good pick. Todman had a 2nd or 3rd round value and they got him in the 6th round. Darren Sproles is going to be too expensive to keep as a backup and Todman has speed and pass catching ability to compliment Ryan Matthews and Mike Tolbert.

201. G Steve Schilling B

Schilling fits the range, but they had much bigger needs than guard depth. They need someone to compete with Brandyn Dombrowski at right tackle. They need someone to compete with Larry English at rush linebacker.

234. MLB Andrew Gachzar C+

I didn’t have Gachzar in my top 300 and I don’t think he fits the scheme, but he was drafted to be only a special teamer, which is fine in the 7th round. I think there were better players who could play special teams available, however.

Overall:

The Chargers can never draft well. Look at their first and second round picks in recent years. A lot of players who didn’t pan out. They had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds and they got a 3-4 end who I think will bust, a safety and a linebacker both of whom probably won’t be able to do anything, but play special teams, a depth cornerback and a depth wide receiver. Only the selection of Vincent Brown was one I liked. Getting a steal in Jordan Todman in the 6th helps their draft grade, but they reached big time with 4 of their first 5 picks and they didn’t fill two of their biggest needs, rush linebacker, and right tackle. This draft probably only upgraded their special teams, which was a huge need, but they could have done so much more with this draft.

Grade: C-

 

Chargers Draft 2012

 

18. RLB Melvin Ingram B+

I actually had Melvin Ingram 18th on my board so I can’t hate this pick, but I had Whitney Mercilus, Nick Perry, and Courtney Upshaw higher than Ingram at this position, though they filled arguably their biggest need here.

49. 3-4 DE Kendall Reyes B+

They had other needs, but Reyes is a pretty good value here and they do need a young rotational lineman as Antonio Garay and Luis Castillo are aging players on one year deals.

73. S Brandon Taylor A

Safety might have been their 2nd biggest need after rush linebacker. Steve Gregory was awful last season and now even he’s gone. Taylor could start immediately next to Eric Weddle and starting safety were really tough to find this year given how this the class was.

110. TE Ladarius Green A

They need a developmental tight end behind an aging and injury prone Antonio Gates. I had Green rated one round earlier and he could have an immediate impact as a receiver in two-tight end sets.

149. G Johnnie Troutman C-

I had Troutman outside of my top 250 and that was without knowing about his pectoral injury. He could miss the whole season with that injury and the Chargers knew about that. They took him anyway. At least he filled a need, but what’s the point of spending a late round selection on someone who is hurt. Late round selections normally only have a year or so to prove themselves. It’s seems 50/50 that Troutman will ever suit up for them.

226. C David Molk A

Did they need another center? Not really, but Nick Hardwick is getting up there in age and there’s nothing wrong with finding a solid backup in the 7th round, especially when it’s a phenomenal value like this.

250. RB Edwin Baker A

They needed a 2nd back. I don’t know why they didn’t address this earlier. Are Curtis Brinkley or LeRon McClain capable of being the backup to Ryan Mathews, who hasn’t exceeded 222 carries as a pro? Anyway, Baker fits the range in the 7th round. He’ll probably be a 3rd or 4th back at best though.

The Chargers had two solid picks to start their drafts and, with the addition of Brandon Taylor, a very good pick, in the 3rd round, they really helped their defense. Ladarius Green was a great pick in the 4th round as value as a great value. They also drafted really well in the last couple rounds. It wasn’t a perfect draft for several reasons. I think there were better players at the same position available at 18 and I don’t think they filled a pressing need in the 2nd round. I also didn’t get the Troutman selection at all and I don’t think they did enough to address the running back position, but this was a solid draft which should have benefits for them next season and in the future, particularly defensively.

Grade: B+

 

Chargers 2011 Needs

Free Agency Priorities

Rush Linebacker

They didn’t address this position through the draft at all, which shows they aren’t ready to give up on 2009 1st round pick Larry English, who has been a bust to this point in his career. Given that, they probably won’t address this position in free agency, but they really should.

Right Tackle

They drafted Steve Schilling in the 6th round, a guard prospect, to play right tackle. Something tells me that won’t go well. They also have Brandyn Dombrowski at the position, but I think they need to add a true veteran starter through free agency.

Middle Linebacker

Their top 3 middle linebackers from last year are free agents. If all 3 leave, they’re left with 2010 3rd round pick Donald Butler and 2011 2nd round pick Jonas Mouton at the position, with very little depth. They need to at least resign 1 of the 3 or add a veteran in free agency.

Safety

Unless they resign Eric Weedle, easily the top safety on the market, they’re left with 2011 2nd round pick Marcus Gilchrist, the injury prone Bob Sanders, and Steve Gregory, who struggled last year. If they don’t resign, Weedle, they need to find some other free safety through free agency.

 

Draft Needs 

3-4 Defensive End

This team’s needed an upgrade at defensive end since Igor Olshansky left. Current starter Jacques Cesaire is a free agent and isn’t very good.

Drafted Corey Liuget (#18) 

Safety

They’ve needed an upgrade at safety opposite Eric Weddle for a while. Weddle himself is a free agent so if he leaves, they need two new starters.

Drafted Marcus Gilchrist (#50), Signed Bob Sanders

Rush Linebacker

The 18th pick in the 2009 draft Larry English has not lived up to the hype at all. He didn’t even finish last year as a starter, losing his job to Antawn Applewhite, a marginal player. They could easily go rush linebacker this year at #18 with options like Akeem Ayers, Justin Houston, Ryan Kerrigan, Von Miller, and Aldon Smith available. 

Offensive Tackle

Jeromey Clary isn’t very good and he’s a free agent. They do like young Brandyn Dombrowski, but some competition could be added in the mid rounds.

Drafted Steve Schilling (#201) 

Cornerback

After their starters, this team doesn’t have a lot of corners depth.

Drafted Shareece Wright (#89) 

Wide Reciever

They are prepared to move forward without Vincent Jackson. However, if Malcom Floyd leaves as well, they’re very thin at the position.

Drafted Vincent Brown (#82) 

Middle Linebacker

Their top 3 middle linebackers are all free agents so if they don’t resign 2 of them or don’t feel comfortable with the ones they bring back, some depth could be added in the mid rounds.

Drafted Jonas Mouton (#61), Drafted Andrew Gachkar (#234) 

Running Back

Darren Sproles is likely gone as a free agent unless he takes a pay cut. They’ll need someone to do everything he does as a breakaway back, a 3rd down back, and a return man.

Drafted Jordan Todman (#183) 

 

Chargers 2010 Recap

This season started off just like any other in the Norv Turner era. They started 2-5 only to win 4 straight, putting themselves right back in the AFC West race. Even after a bad 15 point home loss to the Raiders, they weren’t out of it, winning back-to-back games and stomping division leading Kansas City 31-0 week 14.

They looked ready to make another late season comeback to win the division. But then something happened. They didn’t finish. They didn’t show up week 16 in a 34-20 loss to the lowly Bengals, eliminating themselves and allowing Kansas City to win the division. It’s like they got so overconfident in their ability to suck in the beginning and finish strong that they forgot to actually put in the effort to finish strong.

They finished the year 9-7, in 2nd place in the division. Their record ruined Philip Rivers’ MVP case despite Rivers’ amazing stats, 66% completion, 8.7 yards per attempt, 30 touchdowns to 13 picks and a 101.8 QB rating. Had this team made the playoffs, his name would be in there with Brady’s and Vick’s for MVP.

So many of their losses were winnable games if it wasn’t for stupid mistakes, especially on special teams, at the wrong time. Norv Turner should have been fired. They haven’t started a season well in his tenure there and he failed to take easily one of the top 5 most talented teams in the league to the playoffs this year. In fact, this team actually ranked 1st in yardage defense and offense, and still finished 9-7.

However, Norv Turner will be brought back for financial reasons. This team is too cheap to be paying two coaches at once. Fortunately for them, the Chiefs were exposed as the biggest frauds of the year week 17 and in the playoffs, and the Raiders have been in a bit of disarray since the season ended so if they can get things together, this has to be the favorite in 2011. They just can’t continue to lose so many winnable games.

 

Chargers

 

2010 Record: 9-7

Draft Position: 18

2010 Season Recap: Click Here

Offseason Needs: Click Here

Free Agents/Team Transactions: Click Here

Draft Grades: Click Here

Key Offseason Moves: Signed Bob Sanders

Chargers Blogger: Steve Adler, Eric Howard, Kyle Wadford

 

2010 Posts 

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Chandler Jones Scout

 

Defensive End/Rush Linebacker

Syracuse

6-5 266

Draft board overall prospect rank: #49

Draft board defensive end rank: #4

Overall rating: 76 (2nd round pick)

40 time: 4.85

Games watched: Syracuse/Connecticut, Syracuse/Pittsburgh

Positives

·         Great natural athleticism

·         Good size (6-5 266)

·         Great hands

·         Long arms (35 inches)

·         Has the ability to add another 15-20 pounds

·         Moves well for his size

·         Solid production in 7 games in 2011 (30 tackles, 7.5 for loss, 4.5 sacks)

·         Physical

·         Plays with good leverage

·         Good strength to anchor

·         Good burst off the line

·         Solid against the run

·         Good motor

·         Strong work ethic

·         All the intangibles

·         3 year starter

·         Has a strong bloodline (his brother Arthur plays for the Ravens and his other brother Jon is a champion MMA fighter)

·         Was on my first round watch list for 2013 before he declared early

·         Great upside

Negatives

·         Not very productive as a pass rusher (10.5 sacks in 3 years)

·         Injury history

·         Probably declared a year early

·         Disappointing 40 time (4.85)

·         Not a quick twitch athlete

·         Only average speed off the edge

·         Concerned about his speed and quickness to play rush linebacker

·         Inexperienced in coverage

·         Undeveloped as a pass rusher

·         Not a wide repertoire of pass rushing moves

·         Weight room strength (22 reps) doesn’t match up to his on the field strength

NFL Comparison: Will Smith

Chandler Jones is one of the players I had on my first round watch list for 2013 who surprisingly declared a year early (Brock Osweiler, Lamar Miller, Rueben Randle, Stephen Hill, Tommy Streeter, Josh Robinson, etc.). Like most of those players, I have a day 2 grade on Chandler Jones, a 2nd round grade. Stephen Hill is the one exception there because of his amazing Combine.

Jones is a 3 year starter, but managed just 10.5 sacks in those 3 years, 2 as a freshman, 4 as a sophomore, 4.5 as a junior. It’s worth noting that he only played 7 games as a junior due to injuries and could have had a solid sack total had he stayed healthy, but that injury will be a concern for teams going forward. He’s a great athlete who can develop as a pass rusher, but he’s not an elite pass rusher yet.

He’s got long arms and uses his hands well. He gets good burst off the line as well, but he’s not a quick twitch athlete who is going to burn guys off the edge. He also doesn’t have a very mature pass rushing repertoire. He’s solid against the run, but the pass rush isn’t there yet, but, again, he can develop it. He’s got great natural athletic abilities, a strong work ethic, and good bloodlines with his brother Arthur playing for the Ravens and his brother Jon being a UFC Fighter (Jon Bones Jones).

My other concern with him is whether or not he’ll fit a 3-4. He has little to no experience in coverage and he doesn’t seem comfortable in back pedal. He’s also not overly fast off the edge, which is a must for rushing out of a 3-4 scheme as a rush linebacker because they typically start out rushing out of a 2 point stance in space. His 40 time (4.85) was very concerning as well.

He could still be drafted by a 3-4 team, like the Jets at 16, who are known to love him, or the Chargers at 18, but that wouldn’t be his best fit. He reminds me a lot of Will Smith of the New Orleans Saints, a 4-3 end who came into the league at 265, but added 15 pounds to his frame, which Jones can do comfortably. Given that, I think he’s best as a 4-3 end like Smith, who has been solid, but not elite as a pass rusher after going in the first round, with 61.5 sacks in 8 years after going in the first in 2004.

Other options for Jones include Chicago at 19, who is known to be interested, Tennessee at 20, Detroit at 23, New England at 27 or 31, and some 3-4 teams like Green Bay (28), Houston (26), and Baltimore (29). I think it’s pretty unlikely that he’ll fall out of the first round as someone will fall in love with him and his upside, but I have a 2nd round grade on him because his lack of pass rushing ability and production makes him a pretty boom or bust prospect.

 

Champ Bailey Broncos

 

Bailey’s past his prime and turns 33 this offseason, but he was still one of the better corners in the league last year and 43 million over 4 years, with only 22 million of that guaranteed, is the right amount for someone like him. He probably won’t be worth his entire contract over the life of the contract, but that’s okay because it’s not all guaranteed.

Grade: A

 

Chad Ochocinco Patriots

 

Trade for Cincinnati: There was almost no chance they were bringing Ocho back. He didn’t want to be there. They wanted to go full force forward with their youth movement at receiver. Plus, Carson Palmer didn’t like playing with him and right now they’re trying to convince Palmer to come out of retirement. Credit them for getting something for him.

Grade: A

Trade for New England: Ochocinco wanted to be a Patriot. He wants to win and I think he’s ready to buy into the Patriot way. This team needed to make their offensive less one-dimensional and adding a deep threat like Ochocinco is what they needed. He comes very cheap for them in terms of draft picks and financial compensation.

Grade: A

 

Chad Jones Scout

 

Safety

LSU

6-2 225

40 time: 4.57

Draft board overall prospect rank: #39

Draft board overall safety rank: #4

Overall rating: 81*

3/2/10: A 4.57 isn’t bad at 221 pounds, but he measured in 10 pounds skinnier than expected and didn’t appear to be any faster. He also struggled somewhat in drills and only put up 9 reps on the bench press. He’s still an early 2nd rounder in my book, though, but barely.

1/23/10: The top strong safety in this draft class, he hits like a linebacker at 6-3 235, but also has experience starting at cornerback for a National Championship team as a freshman so you know his coverage skills are at least decent. He doesn’t have Taylor Mays’ measureables, particularly great timed speed, but he is a better strong safety prospect than Mays and should be drafted first, though I doubt he will be.

            12/26/09: Taylor Mays gets all of the hype with the safety position because of his excellent triangle numbers, height, weight, 40 time, and his big flying hits and just the overall fact that he goes to USC. However, Chad Jones is the better safety prospect and after reviewing some more game footage, my next Big Board will reflect that. Jones is actually bigger than Mays, 6-3 232. He has linebacker size and freakish athleticism and hits like a ton of bricks, but he’s also more fundamentally sound than Mays. He actually wraps up his tackles and plays a ton more controlled. His route to the ball carrier is better than Mays’ but still needs some improvement but with his size and explosion, he really is another linebacker up there on run plays and would be an excellent fit for a 3-4 defense. He plays the pass better than Mays as well and actually has 14 starts at cornerback as a freshman on the LSU National Championship team before moving to free safety for the last two years. His ability to play cornerback, plus his skills as a baseball pitcher, show his freakish athleticism. He also played running back in High School. Athleticism runs in his blood as well. His cousin Rahim Alem also plays on the LSU football team and is considered a late round prospect as a defensive end or rush linebacker. He doesn’t have Mays’ timed speed or upside, but he moves well for his size with a projected low 4.5 40. He can do everything you’d expect out of a strong safety in the NFL. He can patrol a zone, he can make a play on the ball, muscle around a receiver, or man up a tight end, and he can also rush the passer on blitzes something I’ve seen him do very effectively. His hands need a bit of improvement, but that’s not extremely important for his position and he did improve his interception total to 3 this year and is showing off some of his running back skills with 23.7 yards per interception return. His backpedal is a bit sluggish, which is probably part of the reason he’s no longer a cornerback. He’s well coached as part of a strong conservative defense at LSU that has a history of making good NFL defenders, especially safeties. He has about 2 and a half years of starting experience, 1 and a half at safety, and a year at cornerback so the experience is there. The production over those years has been pretty good as well. I think because of his size he’s best suited to be a strong safety in the NFL, but he can also play some free safety with good success and that actually is his primary position in college. His stance on whether or not to declare for the 2010 draft at this point is unknown, but should he declare, once he performs at the combine and in individual workouts and his pro day, he should shoot up into the first round range where he belongs. He has Pro Bowl caliber upside at the next level.

NFL Comparison: Adrian Wilson

 

 

Chad Henne Shine

By Paul Smythe 

There is nothing like a nationally televised football game, unless of course, it is a nationally televised Miami Dolphins game. 

This game will be Chad Henne’s first game of the season that will be viewed by the entire country, and I expect him to show up in a big way Sunday night.

This is the game that proves to everyone that Chad Henne is a top quarterback in the NFL, and it could not have come at a better time.

The New York Jets are the perfect team for him to beat.

Practically anyone who follows football in the slightest knows about the self-proclaimed “Super Bowl Champions-to be” New York Jets. The casual fan will probably also know about the New York Jets very good defense because of how much they were talked about so much during the offseason.

Chad Henne, on the other hand, is someone that most casual fans do not know much(if at all) about. Henne has been good so far in just under a full year at the helm of the Miami Dolphins, but he has not been good enough to become a household name. He is no Peyton Manning, and not many people know much about him. Most fans have probably heard of him, but they do not pay much attention to him or consider him to be a really good quarterback.

That will change Sunday night.

Chad Henne is going to have a great game through the air, and people will recognize what he is able to do because of the defense he is playing.

If you walk up to a casual fan and ask him/her what team has the best defense in the NFL (without bias), chances are he/she would say the New York Jets, which is why when Henne shreds their defense Sunday night people will take notice. It won’t even matter that Darrelle Revis is out with an injury because regular fans do not pay attention to names on defense. They just look at how the defense does as a whole.

The Miami Dolphins have not shown much of a passing offense in the previous two weeks, but I have reason to believe that will change. I think the Dolphins have been waiting to unveil their real passing offense until a big division matchup like this one.

This game is more important than either game that the Dolphins have won so far, which is why Miami will throw the ball more. They will need to put up points to assure a win, which would be huge for the AFC East division standings. A 3-0 start would be great for Miami, but it is especially important because it puts the Jets at 1-2.

The biggest impact would be on the mentality of the Jets, though. They came into this season thinking that the Super Bowl was all but theirs, but a loss to a team in their division would be crushing and hard to recover from.

It is a key game, and I don’t see how the Dolphins could do anything but throw the ball to get ahead. Our defense will take care of Mark Sanchez. All we have to do is score.

Henne is capable of being successful. The play-calling has been what has hindered him to this point. The play-calling has to start to favor Chad Henne more if the Miami Dolphins want to continue winning this season.

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