Quarterback
When Drew Brees retired at the end of the 2020 season, the Saints were faced with a choice. They had spent aggressively in the final years of Brees’ career in an attempt to win a Super Bowl while they still had a future Hall of Fame quarterback, doing so at the expense of future cap space. With Brees gone, they could have completely torn down the roster and gone through a full rebuild, but instead they opted to continue spending aggressively at the expense of future cap space, in an attempt to stay relevant.
The result was five seasons where the Saints were never terrible, but also never made the post-season, while their roster got increasingly old and increasingly bad. Last season was the worst season, as the Saints fell to 5-12 and were set to have no financial flexibility for the next two off-seasons to improve their roster. A recent stretch of poor drafting didn’t help matters, as the last time the Saints drafted a player who made a Pro Bowl while a member of the Saints was back in 2019.
Going into this off-season, the Saints were again faced with a choice of going through a rebuild or staying the course, in this case choosing between undergoing a likely even longer rebuild than before or staying on an increasingly declining course. The Saints at first seemed content to stay the course, but then a big decision was made for them, when quarterback Derek Carr opted to retire. Originally, the Saints restructured Carr’s contract, freeing up cap space this off-season at the expense of next off-season, but Carr’s injured shoulder worsened and ultimately caused Carr to hang them up ahead of what would have been his age 34 season in 2025.
Carr’s retirement gave them some additional financial flexibility this off-season, but it put them in an even tougher situation as a franchise. They’re still already over next year’s salary cap and they still have the 4th highest average annual age of their roster in 2025, even with Carr retiring, and now they are without a quarterback. Carr wasn’t elite or anything last season, but he played pretty well when healthy, completing 67.7% of his passes for an average of 7.69 YPA, 15 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions in 10 starts, one of the Saints’ few bright spots last season, as they went 5-5 when he started and 0-7 when he didn’t.
To replace Carr, the Saints used a second round pick on Tyler Shough and, even though he was the third quarterback selected in a bad quarterback draft, he is expected to start immediately, given the Saints’ lack of alternatives. Spencer Rattler made six of the seven starts in Carr’s absence last season, but the 2024 5th round pick predictably struggled, completing 57.0% of his passes for an average of 5.78 YPA, 4 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions.
Jake Haener made the other start but the 2023 4th round pick was even worse, completing 46.2% of his passes for an average of 5.79 YPA, 1 touchdown, and 1 interception in his first career action. Rattler also has the higher upside of the two options and should at least beat out Haener for the backup job, but it’s unlikely he will beat out Shough for the starting job. If he does, that probably says more negative about Shough than it does positive about Rattler. Overall, this looks like clearly the worst quarterback room in the league, without a single quarterback who has ever won a game in the NFL.
Grade: C
Receiving Corps
If there is one reason to be at least somewhat optimistic about this offense it’s the fact that they should be healthier on offense this season, after leading the league in offensive adjusted games lost to injury last season. Their receiving corps was especially hard hit, as their expected two top receivers Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed were limited to 315 snaps in 8 games and 286 snaps in 6 games respectively. Both played at a high level when healthy, averaging 2.42 yards per route run and 2.07 yards per route run respectively and posting slash lines that extrapolate to 85/1082/3 and 57/989/9 respectively over 17 games, if you exclude the two games in which Olave left early due to injury.
Both should be healthier this season and both have a high upside. Olave is the most proven of the two, as the 2022 1st round pick has averaged 2.21 yards per route run in three seasons in the league, while finishing with slash lines of 72/1042/4 and 87/1123/5 in 2022 and 2023, before last season’s injury plagued campaign. The concern is he’s now suffered four documented concussions in his professional career, including two last season, which puts his long-term future into some doubt. He’s still only going into his age 25 season and has a lot of high level football ahead of him if he can stay healthy, but that’s far from a guarantee.
Shaheed, meanwhile, went undrafted in 2022, but showed a ton of promise right away, with a 28/488/2 slash line on 34 targets and 2.60 yards per route run in 12 games as a part-time player as a rookie. He couldn’t keep up that level of efficiency in a bigger role in his second season in the league in 2023, but he still had a solid 46/719/5 slash line on 75 targets in 15 games with 1.67 yards per route run and he seemed to take a step forward in limited action last season.
Shaheed is a couple years older than Olave, going into his age 27 season, but he’s still very much in his prime and, even if he can’t keep up last season’s level of play over a full season, he should remain at least an above average wide receiver in 2025. When healthy, he and Olave are one of the best wide receiver duos in the league, though I would expect their overall production and efficiency to be kept down by their quarterback play.
In the absence of Olave and Shaheed, four other Saints wide receivers played between 300 and 400 snaps, but most of them struggled, with the exception being Marquez Valdes-Scantling, who was signed mid-season and had a 17/385/4 slash line across 35 targets in 8 games, while averaging 1.70 yards per route run. Valdes-Scantling wasn’t retained this off-season and, instead, it will be free agent acquisition Brandin Cooks as the third receiver behind Olave and Shaheed.
For Cooks, this is a homecoming, as he spent the first three seasons of his career in New Orleans, prior to being traded to the Patriots for a first round pick after the 2016 season. Cooks has had a great career, surpassing 1000 yards receiving six times and averaging 1.71 yards per route run across eleven seasons in the league, but he is now going into his age 32 season and has clearly slowed down in recent years. His last 1000+ yard season was back in 2021 and, in the three seasons since, he has seen his yards per route run average decrease from 1.64 to 1.24 to 0.89, while missing 12 games total across those three seasons. Even as a #3 receiver, he is an underwhelming option.
Cedrick Wilson, Mason Tipton, and Kevin Austin all return as reserves after playing 382 snaps, 357 snaps, and 324 snaps last season and they also have 2024 5th round pick Bub Means, who played 145 snaps as a rookie, but all of them are underwhelming options. Wilson is the most proven and experienced of the bunch, though largely by default. He had a 45/602/6 slash line with 1.74 yards per route run in 2021, but that was his only season above 300 yards receiving in seven seasons in the league, his career yards per route run average is just 1.29, and now he’s heading into his age 30 season and could decline further in 2025.
Meanwhile, Kevin Austin and Mason Tipton are 2024 undrafted free agents who averaged just 0.79 and 0.42 yards per route run respectively as rookies and, while Bub Means was slightly better with a 1.31 yards per route run average as a rookie, it came in very limited playing time, as he was unable to earn a consistent role even in a thin position group. Wilson will likely be the Saints’ #4 receiver and the first one to take over a significant role in case of an injury ahead of him on the depth chart, but that is largely by default and he figures to struggle if forced into that significant role.
With the issues they had at wide receiver in the absence of Olave and Shaheed last season, the Saints ranked dead last in the NFL with just 46.0% of their targets going to wide receivers, while leading the league with 26.1% of their targets going to running backs and ranking 6th with 27.9% of their targets going to tight ends. Their tight ends weren’t necessarily deserving of all those targets though, as Juwan Johnson turned 66 targets into a 50/548/3 slash line with 1.34 yards per route run, Foster Moreau turned 43 targets into a 32/413/5 slash line with 1.43 yards per route run, and Tayson Hill turned 31 targets into a 23/187/0 slash line with 1.68 yards per route run.
All three remain for 2025, but figure to play significantly smaller roles, with their wide receiver group set to be healthier. Hill was the most efficient of the bunch last season, but it came in the smallest role, he has just a 1.30 yards per route run average in his career, and now he’s going into his age 35 season and coming off of a season-ending torn ACL that he suffered in week 13 of last season, so he could miss the start of the season and could easily struggle upon his return.
Juwan Johnson has been their nominal starter for the past three seasons, but he only had slash lines of 42/508/7 and 37/368/4 on averages of 1.39 yards per route run and 1.19 yards per route run in his first two seasons as a starter and, overall, he is a pretty underwhelming starting option. Moreau, meanwhile, has averaged 1.29 yards per route run in six seasons in the league as a part-time player, while maxing out at 420 receiving yards in a season in 2022. It’s not a bad tight end room and at least the Saints won’t need as high of a target share out of them as they had last season, but it’s not a good tight end room either. The Saints’ receiving corps should be significantly improved by the duo of Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed likely being healthier, but the rest of this group is underwhelming at best.
Grade: B+
Running Backs
Feature back Alvin Kamara was also a huge part of this passing game last season, leading the team with 89 targets, turning them into a 68/543/2 slash line and averaging 1.75 yards per route run, 3rd in the NFL among eligible running backs. That was nothing new for Kamara, who has averaged a 72/595/3 slash line on 91 targets with a 1.93 yards per route run average in eight seasons in the league. Even with a healthier wide receiver group this season, Kamara figures to remain heavily involved in the passing game.
Kamara also averaged 4.17 YPC on 228 carries. That was actually his highest YPC average of the past four seasons, a span in which he has averaged just 3.95 YPC, which is a concern as he goes into his age 30 season in 2025, with 2,116 career touches, a common point for running backs to start slowing down significantly. Kamara also actually missed three games with injury last season, which also isn’t new for him, as he hasn’t made it through a season without missing a game since his rookie season in 2017, but he’s only missed 17 total games in eight seasons, so he’s at least avoided any major injuries.
The Saints used a 3rd round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft on Kendre Miller to potentially be Kamara’s long-term replacement, but he has underwhelmed thus far through two seasons in the league, primarily due to injuries, as he has been limited to a 3.80 YPC average on just 80 carries in 14 games. He has at least shown promise as a receiver, averaging 1.49 yards per route run in very limited action. Miller is still only going into his age 23 season, so he could still have a lot of untapped upside if he can stay healthy and he figures to be the clear #2 back in 2025, with Jamaal Williams, who was second on the team with 48 carries last season, no longer on the roster. In a best case scenario, Miller would be an upgrade on Williams (3.42 YPC, 0.74 yards per route run in 2024), capable of spelling Kamara on both running and passing downs without much drop off.
The Saints also used a 6th round pick in this year’s draft on Devin Neal to give themselves additional depth and he could find himself in a role by season’s end if Miller flops or gets hurt again. Additionally, tight end Taysom Hill also sees action at running back, averaging 5.5 carries per game over the past five seasons, including 4.9 per game in eight games last season, though obviously his age and injury recovery complicate matters for him significantly. This isn’t a bad backfield, but Kamara’s age and usage history, as well as backup Kendre Miller being unproven, are both concerns.
Grade: B+
Offensive Line
The Saints used their first round pick, 9th overall, on Kelvin Banks, who figures to start at tackle for them as a rookie. This is actually the second straight year and their third year out of the past four in which the Saints have used their first round pick on a tackle. Last year’s first round pick, Talise Fuaga, had a decent rookie year with a 65.7 PFF grade in 17 starts and could take a step forward in his second season in the league in 2025. He spent his rookie year at left tackle and could stay there long-term, but it’s also possible the Saints now view Banks as their left tackle and will move Fuaga to the right side to accommodate him.
Meanwhile, Trevor Penning, a first round pick in 2022, will move to left guard from right tackle, with Banks being added. He has been a bust through three seasons in the league, limited to just six nondescript starts in his first two seasons in the league due to a combination of injury and ineffectiveness, before making all 17 starts last season but only being a replacement level starter, with a 60.2 PFF grade. He could still have untapped upside, only in his age 26 season, and a move inside to guard could potentially kickstart his career, but that’s far from a guarantee and it’s also possible that having to learn a new position will do more harm than good for him.
The Saints also used a first round pick in 2020 on an offensive lineman, taking Cesar Ruiz, who has made 75 starts in five seasons in the league, primarily at right guard. Ruiz has largely been a disappointment as well, finishing below 60 on PFF in each of his first four seasons in the league, before finishing with a career best 67.6 PFF grade in 2024. Ruiz is still only going into his age 26 season and it’s possible he has permanently turned a corner and will remain a capable starter going forward, but he could also regress and, even if he doesn’t, he hasn’t shown a high upside.
The Saints’ best offensive lineman is the only one they didn’t use a first round pick on, center Erik McCoy. A 2nd round pick in 2019, McCoy has finished above 60 on PFF in all six seasons in the league, including four seasons over 70. He was on his way to a career best year in 2024, with a 94.4 PFF grade, but injuries limited him to 293 snaps and seven starts. He probably won’t be quite that good over a full season in 2025, but he did have a 79.4 PFF grade in 17 starts in 2023, his best healthy season, and, if he stays healthy this season, another season like that is very obtainable for him, still only in his age 28 season. Durability is a concern though, as he’s missed at least four games in three of the past four seasons, with 19 games missed total over that stretch.
For depth options, the Saints bring back guard Nick Saldiveri and guard/tackle Landon Young, who made 6 starts and 5 starts respectively last season, and they add guard/tackle Dillon Radunz and guard/center Will Clapp in free agency. Saldiveri was a 4th round pick in 2023, but struggled in the first significant action of his career last season, with a 56.0 PFF grade, while Young is a 2021 6th round pick who has finished below 60 on PFF in all four seasons in the league, across 12 total starts.
Radunz is probably their best reserve, as the 2021 2nd round pick had a 67.2 PFF grade in 11 starts in 2023, but he’s also finished below 60 in his other three seasons in the league, including a 57.0 PFF grade in 15 starts last season, which is why he had to settle for a backup job this off-season. Clapp, meanwhile, has made 22 starts in seven seasons in the league, but has finished below 60 on PFF in all seven of those seasons. This offensive line has upside if their recent high draft picks can play at their best and if center Erik McCoy can stay healthy, but they also have downside if that doesn’t happen, especially given that their depth options are underwhelming.
Grade: B
Edge Defenders
The Saints weren’t quite as bad on defense as they were on offense last season, but they were still below average on this side of the ball, ranking 27th in yards per play allowed and 17th in first down rate allowed, and, unlike on offense, injuries weren’t the problem, as they had the 10th fewest adjusted games lost to injury in the league. The Saints used to have a consistently good defense, but many of their key players have gotten old and declined as a result.
One notable example of that is edge defender Cameron Jordan. Jordan finished above 80 on PFF in seven straight seasons from 2015-2021, but then he fell to 74.5 and 73.5 in 2022 and 2023 and then he fell further to a 57.4 PFF grade across 565 snaps in 2024, both of which were the lowest of his 14-year career. Now going into his age 36 season, Jordan is highly unlikely to bounce back and could continue declining further.
Jordan will be a reserve behind starters Carl Granderson and Chase Young. Granderson has become arguably the Saints’ best defensive player as other players have dropped off. Over the past three seasons, he has finished with PFF grades of 80.4, 74.1, and 79.7, first on a snap count of 480 in a part time role in 2022, before seeing that snap count jump significantly to 874 in 2023 and 825 in 2024. He’s a much better run defender than pass rusher, but has also added 19.5 sacks, 24 hits, and a 10.9% pressure rate in 50 games over the past three seasons. Still in his late prime in his age 29 season, he should continue playing at a similar level in 2025.
Chase Young, meanwhile, was the Saints’ best edge rusher, with 5.5 sacks, 13 hits, and a 13.7% pressure rate last season and he now has 22 sacks, 35 hits, and a 11.4% pressure rate in 60 career games, since being selected 2nd overall by the Commanders in 2020. Young fell below 70 on PFF for the first time in his career last season, but that was because his run defense fell below 60 for the first time in his career. Still only in his age 26 season, he could easily bounce back as a run defender in 2025, while continuing to be an above average pass rusher. Injuries were a big concern for Young earlier in his career, as he played just 12 games between 2021-2022, but that was primarily because of one bad knee injury and he has missed just one game over the past two seasons, so he has seemingly put his injury history behind him.
The Saints did use multiple high draft picks in recent drafts trying to find a successor for Cameron Jordan, taking Payton Turner in the first round in 2021 and Isaiah Foskey in the second round in 2023, but neither of those panned out. Turner played just 675 snaps in four seasons with the Saints, before signing with the Cowboys this off-season, after a 2024 season in which he played a career high 335 snaps, but finished with just a 54.0 PFF grade.
Meanwhile, Isaiah Foskey remains on the roster, but has played just 149 nondescript snaps in two seasons in the league. With Turner gone and Jordan continuing to age, Foskey has the opportunity to play a much bigger snap count in 2025 and he still has theoretical upside, only in his age 25 season, but he could easily struggle in an expanded role. The Saints have a solid starting duo of Carl Granderson and Chase Young, but questionable depth, with Cameron Jordan going into his age 36 season and Isaiah Foskey showing next to nothing through two seasons in the league.
Grade: B+
Interior Defenders
The interior defender position was a big position of weakness last season, with the only player who finished above 60 on PFF being a player who played just 21 snaps. Bryan Bresee was a first round pick in 2023 and has proven himself as a solid interior pass rusher, with 12 sacks, 12 hits, and a 8.0% pressure rate in 34 career games, but his terrible run defense has kept him below 60 overall on PFF in both seasons. He’s only going into his age 24 season and has the upside to get better as a run defender and become a solid all-around player, but there is no guarantee that happens in 2025.
The Saints traded for Davon Godchaux to try to help fix the problem at the interior defender position, but he has finished below 60 on PFF in three straight seasons and now is going into his age 31 season, so his best days are likely behind him and it’s unlikely he will be much help. Godchaux has never been a good pass rusher, with a pressure rate of 4.1% in his career and his run defense has also fallen off in recent years. He’s played an average of 666 snaps over the past four seasons respectively and will likely continue playing a relatively high snap count with his new team, but those are unlikely to be good snaps.
Holdovers Khalen Saunders (460 snaps) and Nathan Shephard (567 snaps) will continue playing a role, albeit likely a smaller role with Godchaux being added. Saunders is relatively young, in his age 29 season, and has some bounce back potential, with PFF grades of 60.2 and 61.6 on snap counts of 421 and 533 in 2022 and 2023 respectively, before falling to a 54.7 PFF grade in 2024, but he’s unlikely to be anything more than a marginal rotational player. Shepherd, meanwhile, had some solid years earlier in his career, but he has received PFF grades of 47.5 and 43.4 over the past two seasons and now is heading into his age 32 season, so he will likely continue struggling in a significant way, even in a reduced role in 2025. Overall, this is still a very underwhelming interior defender group.
Grade: C
Linebackers
Another aging player on this defense is linebacker Demario Davis, who is heading into his age 36 season. Davis still had a 73.2 PFF grade in an every down role (1,090 snaps) last season, but that was actually his worst single season grade since 2016 and he could decline further in 2025, perhaps significantly further, given his age. He will continue starting next to 2021 2nd round pick Pete Werner, who has been a solid, but unspectacular player through four seasons in the league, with PFF grades of 79.9, 64.7, 57.5, and 69.0 on snap counts of 394, 596, 919, and 731 respectively. He’s never made it through a season without getting hurt, missing 12 games in total in four seasons in the league, so he will likely miss more time this season, but, when on the field, I would expect him to continue being a solid, but unspectacular every down player.
Depth was an issue at linebacker for the Saints in 2024, as their top-2 reserves Willie Gay (277 snaps) and Anfernee Orji (147 snaps) received PFF grades of 44.1 and 55.2 respectively. Neither were retained for 2025, but the alternatives are not better, as the Saints’ best reserve options are 2022 5th round pick D’Marco Jackson, who has played just 76 snaps in three seasons in the league, and 4th round rookie Danny Stutsman. Davis and Werner could be an above average every down linebacker duo, but their depth is a concern, given Davis’ age and Werner’s injury history.
Grade: B
Secondary
The Saints made a big move towards rebuilding midway through the 2024 season when they traded long-time top cornerback Marshon Lattimore to the Commanders for a package centered around a 3rd round pick. It’s a trade that makes sense in the long-term, but Lattimore led all Saints cornerbacks with a 71.3 PFF grade through seven seasons in the league and they don’t have a clear #1 cornerback to replace him on the roster.
Kool-Aid McKinstry probably has the highest upside of the group, as the 2024 2nd round pick had a 66.1 PFF grade across 680 snaps in 14 games as a rookie and could easily take a step forward in his second season in the league in 2025. Paulson Adebo also had a decent season in 2024 with a 63.3 PFF grade, but he was limited to 436 snaps in 7 games by injury and was not retained this off-season, being replaced by free agent addition Isaac Yiadom. Yiadom had a 81.1 PFF grade in 2023, but it came across just 517 snaps in 17 games and that looks like a complete fluke, as he’s never finished above 60 on PFF in any of his other six seasons in the league, including a 59.5 PFF grade in across 488 snaps in 2024. He’ll probably start for the Saints in 2025, but primarily due to the lack of a better option and he will likely struggle.
Alontae Taylor led the position group with 1,075 snaps, but he struggled mightily with a 45.0 PFF grade, finishing 124th worst among 128 eligible cornerbacks on PFF and allowing 998 receiving yards, most in the league among cornerbacks by a wide margin, with no one else surpassing 806 receiving yards allowed. Taylor was a 2nd round pick in 2022, but has not lived up to his draft slot, also struggling in his first two seasons in the league, with PFF grades of 54.5 and 45.7 on snap counts of 663 and 950. Taylor is already going into his age 27 season, so he is running out of time to make good on his upside and is likely to continue struggling, perhaps significantly, in 2025. Like Yiadom, Taylor will probably have to start in 2025, due to the lack of good alternatives.
The biggest competition the Saints have for Taylor and Yiadom is veteran Ugo Amadi and 4th round rookie Quincy Riley. Amadi has only played more than 500 snaps three times in six seasons in the league and finished below 60 on PFF in two of those three seasons, including a 43.7 PFF grade in 2021, when he played a career high 692 snaps. Riley, meanwhile, is probably too raw to contribute in a significant positive way as a rookie. Outside of Kool-Aid McKinstry, who is still young and unproven, this is a very underwhelming cornerback group.
Things are better at safety, but the Saints have another aging starter there, with Tyrann Mathieu going into his age 33 season and coming off of a career worst 60.5 PFF grade in 2024. He had a 81.3 PFF grade as recently as 2023, but it seems highly unlikely he will bounce back anywhere near to that level in 2025, given his age, and he could easily decline further. The biggest highlight of this secondary is Justin Reid, who was added as a free agent on a 3-year, 31.5 million dollar deal this off-season, though he’s the highlight largely by default.
Reid had a 76.9 PFF grade last season, though that was a career best year. The 7-year veteran has finished above 70 on PFF in four of those seasons and is still only going into his age 28 season, so he could easily have another above average season in 2025, but he’s also been pretty consistent in his career, receiving PFF grades of 50.9, 60.7, and 57.7 in 2020, 2021, and 2023 respectively, so he could regress. The Saints also have Jordan Howden, a 2023 5th round pick, as the third safety and he’s a great reserve option, having received PFF grades of 67.0 and 67.9 on snap counts of 569 and 550 over the past two seasons respectively. The Saints’ safeties are not bad, but don’t totally make up for the Saints’ issues at cornerback.
Grade: B-
Kickers
A 2023 undrafted free agent, Blake Grupe has been the Saints’ kicker for the past two seasons and has been about a league average kicker, costing the Saints 2.98 points below average as a rookie and accounting for 2.48 points above average in his second season in the league last year. He will probably keep the kicker job for 2025, but the Saints do have some competition for him in Charlie Smyth, a former European soccer player who spent last season on the Saints practice squad. Most likely, Grupe will be the Saints’ kicker again this season and will remain decent, but unspectacular.
Grade: B
Conclusion
The Saints are in about as bad of a position as a team can be, as a result of years of borrowing future cap space to remain relevant, coupled with years of underwhelming drafts. The result is that, not only do the Saints have arguably the worst roster in the NFL, but they also have the 4th oldest roster and they don’t have any financial flexibility coming next off-season, already about 15.8 million over the 2026 cap. This looks like it will require a multi-year rebuild at the very least and the Saints haven’t even really started the rebuilding process. The good news is they figure to be in contention for the #1 pick in the 2026 NFL Draft, which will jump start that rebuild.
Update: It is a bad sign for Tyler Shough’s long-term prospects that he couldn’t beat out Spencer Rattler for the starting job.
Prediction: 1-16, 4th in NFC South