Colts Draft 2012

1. QB Andrew Luck A

Not much to say here. Luck was the obvious selection.

34. TE Coby Fleener A

I love this pick. I’ve never understood why more teams don’t bring in former teammates to compliment highly drafted quarterbacks. Fleener was the top tight end in this draft class, a solid value at 34, and will be a huge upgrade over Brody Eldridge, a big blocker who has 26 catches combined in college and the pros.

64. TE Dwayne Allen A-

Another tight end? Why not? The Colts had nothing at the position coming into the draft and Andrew Luck loved throwing to his tight ends at Stanford. The Colts are doing a fantastic job building around Luck. They got the best two tight ends in this draft class and Allen is a great value. He’ll also compliment Fleener well because he can play on the line and block, which will allow Fleener to move around and do more things as a pass catcher.

92. WR TY Hilton A

Teams that draft quarterbacks high should take a page out of the Colts’ book. You need to surround your quarterback with talent immediately. The Colts probably aren’t going to compete right away either way (they barely made the playoffs 2 years ago with Peyton Manning), so it’s fine to save your defensive needs until next year’s draft.

136. NT Josh Chapman A

The Colts defense was miserable last year. I’m fine with them not addressing it until the 5th round, but Chapman is a solid value. I had a borderline 3rd/4th round grade on him and he gives them a much needed versatile, rotational defensive lineman who could see significant snaps as a rookie if he stays healthy.

170. RB Vick Ballard A-

They had other needs, but it’s not like Donald Brown or Delone Carter are very good. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Ballard was the lead back by the end of the season. I think he was one of the real hidden gems of the draft class. Remember that for when you’re playing fantasy football.

206. WR LaVon Brazill A-

Another receiver? Well, Reggie Wayne is getting older and Austin Collie has never done anything without Peyton, so it makes sense. Brazill is an underrated player and a solid value, but it’s an A- and not an A because he and Hilton are really, really similar style players.

208. OT Justin Anderson B

It’s just a 7th round pick, but it’s worth noting I didn’t have Anderson in my top 250 prospects. He definitely fills a need upfront for them.

214. RLB Tim Fugger A

The Colts grab another underrated player. I had a 5th round grade on Fugger, but that’s just because he’s undersized and wouldn’t fit in a 4-3. In a 3-4, he’s a very talented player who I wouldn’t be surprised to see beat out mega-bust Jerry Hughes as the 3rd rush linebacker behind Mathis and Freeney this year.

253. QB Chandler Harnish B

Backup quarterback wasn’t a huge need, but if Harnish was tops on their board, I understand it. He didn’t top my board, but I did have a 7th round grade on him so the range fits. Again, hard to hate a 7th round pick.

The Colts had one of the best drafts of any team this year. I’m not talking about Andrew Luck. That was an obvious selection. I’m not going to praise them for it because 9 out of 10 teams would have done the same thing and the other one would have taken Griffin, which wouldn’t have been a bad pick either. But I loved how they built around Luck. They got him two tight ends, including one he played with at Stanford. Luck loves tight ends so this makes a lot of sense. They also got him two underrated, albeit similar, receivers. They got a good value on a running back who could end up the starter at the end of the season and two front 7 players who could have immediate impacts. The only picks I didn’t love were Anderson and Harnish, but those were just a 7th rounders and at least the Anderson pick filled a need.

Grade: A

Colts 38 Giants 14

By Matthew Frank

The New York Giants were thoroughly beaten by the Indianapolis Colts 38-14 in their first prime time game of the year.  The Colts had their way with the Giants running, passing, and generally blowing right by them.

The coaching and game plan was horrendous from the start.  The Giants started off in a dime package and Peyton Manning took full advantage of it.  The Colts steamrolled through the defense racking up most of their initial yardage through the ground.  Apparently the Giants only dressed two defensive tackles which lead to the line wearing down.  However the linebackers were absolutely terrible.  I can’t think of a single time that I saw a linebacker get through the line and make a big play.

Of course, the entire stadium knew it was only a matter of time until the play-action pass was coming.  And when it did, safety Michael Johnson was halfway to the line when Dallas Clark blew by him for an easy touchdown.

The offense was just as terrible choosing to man-to-man block both Freeney and Mathis for most of the game.  David Dehl looked horrendous the entire game.  He simply could not get out of his stance fast enough or line drive the entire game.  Kareem McKenzie was just as bad getting equally abused.  Eli Manning has to do a better job of holding on to the ball, but most plays he was getting harassed as he was making his drops.

You would still hope that a running team, like the Giants, would be able to put up some yardage, but the line play was just terrible.  They looked old and slow, and, well, just finished.  They could never get rolling at all and were absolutely terrible.

This team really got pushed around.  Sure, the Colts are an elite team and this was their home opener, but while a loss is not surprising, the complete manhandling of the Giants was.  They really need to get their act together if they hope to be competitive for the rest of the season.

http://www.bigbluefootballreview.com/

Colts 2011 Needs

Free Agency Priorities

Safety

Bob Sanders is gone, not like he was doing anything of late. Melvin Bullitt, however, is also a free agent so if they can’t resign him, they’ll need to find another veteran option. 

Guard

If they move Ben Ijalana to guard, they need a right tackle. If he plays right tackle, they’ll need a guard. 

Wide Receiver

Anthony Gonzalez and Austin Collie can’t stay healthy. They need to sign someone through free agency in case either get cut in the preseason. 

Running Back 

Joseph Addai is probably going to resign, but if he doesn’t, they’ll really be thin at the running back position. They couldn’t run without Addai last year and there’s no guarantee that rookie Delone Carter can be any different.

 

Draft Needs 

Offensive Tackle

You might be thinking, Peyton Manning only got sacked 16 times, his line did a great job. That’s just because he’s Peyton Manning. He doesn’t get sacked. He always gets rid of the ball right before the hit comes. That doesn’t mean he didn’t have to get the ball out faster than ever before last year, mostly due to Charlie Johnson, now a free agent, struggling at left tackle. In fact, if you go back and watch his picks against the Chargers, Patriots, Cowboys, etc. his arm gets hit on every one of them. A new left tackle could be added at 22 in the form of either Anthony Costanzo or Nate Solder, both of whom would be excellent fits for their scheme. They could also use some right tackle competition for Ryan Diem, who struggled last year as well.

Drafted Anthony Castonzo (#22), Drafted Benjamin Ijalana (#49) 

Running Back

For a while, Peyton Manning looked destined to break Drew Bledsoe’s record for most pass attempts in a season. He was on pace for about 700+ passes before Joseph Addai came back, just because they could not run the ball. Addai’s a pretty mediocre back himself, but he’s better than what they had without him. Both Mike Hart and Donald Brown suck, both at running and pass protection. I know they used a 1st rounder on Brown just two years ago, but at the very least they should use a mid-late round selection on a running back because they can’t count on Addai to stay healthy.

Drafted Delone Carter (#119) 

Guard

Of course it would probably be easier to run if they had better guards. Their also struggled in pass protection, particularly Mike Pollak.

Defensive Tackle

They could stop the run all year before they magically were able to late in the season. Daniel Muir isn’t very good so they could use a mid rounder on a replacement. They ranked 25th against the run.

Drafted Drake Nevis (#87) 

Wide Receiver

The reason they lost to the Jets this year was the same reason they beat them last year, receiver depth. Last year, they had plenty, this year, they didn’t. Austin Collie suffered a ton of concussions last year so his career has to be in jeopardy, especially if he were to suffer one more. Reggie Wayne made the Pro Bowl, but also was one of the league leaders in drops. He turns 33 in November. Pierre Garcon is athletic, but also drops too many passes. Blair White had a decent rookie year, but doesn’t seem like anything special. Anthony Gonzalez can’t stay healthy. They need another receiver in the mix.

Center

Jeff Saturday turns 36 in June and I don’t think his replacement is on the roster. It’s best to bring in his replacement now so he has a lot of time to get familiar with Peyton Manning in practice.

Quarterback

Peyton Manning will be 35 in March and from what little I saw of Curtis Painter in 2009, I know they don’t want the future of the team in his hands. Maybe this is the year they draft his future replacement. Brett Favre was less than a year older than Manning will be on draft day when the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers in 2005.

 

Colts 2010 Recap

The Colts didn’t win 12 games for the first time since 2002, going 10-6, and like 2002, their season ended with a first round playoff loss to the Jets. Peyton Manning threw more interceptions than any season since 2002, had his lowest QB rating since 2002, and his lowest YPA since his rookie year. He completed 66% of his passes for an average of 6.9 YPA, 33 touchdowns to 17 picks. He turns 35 in March and all of a sudden, the talk of his decline is picking up.

However, I don’t blame 2010 on Peyton Manning. Manning played very well, considering his supposrting cast. For most of the season, he was on pace for 700 throws, which would break an NFL record. He finished with 679, but still, you can see how much this team relied on him with Joseph Addai hurt for most of the year and neither Mike Hart nor Donald Brown able to establish themselves on the ground at all. They ran 393 running plays, which means they passed a whopping 63.2% of the time.

Peyton Manning’s line didn’t do him any favors. He only took 16 sacks because he’s Peyton Manning, but his line still struggled. Manning has a knack for getting the ball off before the pressure gets to him, but this year he had less time than normal and that led to bad decisions downfield. On several of his interceptions, including ones against San Diego, Dallas, and New England, his arm was hit right before, alterring the angle and the tracjectory of the pass.

On top of all that, his receiving corps were banged up. Anthony Gonzalez and Austin Collie missed large parts of the season. Dallas Clark missed most of the season. That left them with Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Blair White, and Jacob Tamme. Wayne and Garcon dropped more passes than last year and Tamme, while he was statistically impressive, also had a bunch of drops.

Put it all together, and Peyton Manning was facing a defense that knew he was going to pass, having to get large chunks of yardage through the air because his ground game wasn’t doing anything, with a lin that couldn’t protect, and receivers who couldn’t catch. I say he played pretty well all things considered. His decline is minimal, if any.

That being said, he does turn 35 in March, and only have one Super Bowl win (over Rex Grossman). His career record in the playoffs is now 9-10 after losing to the Jets. That part of his legacy is in sever jeopardy. He will likely be able to break most of Brett Favre’s records in the regular season, but like Favre, it’s very likely he only has one ring when he calls it quits.

This team still has a lot of hope for next season though. They finished the regular season strong with 4 straight wins, to bounce back from a 6-6 start. They played a lot better once they got healthy and they were very close to beating the Jets in the playoffs. They are in significantly better shape than anyone else in their division so the division should still be there’s next year. Peyton Manning’s window is closing, but it hasn’t closed.

 

Colt McCoy

 

Quarterback 

Texas

6-1 216

40 time: 4.77

Draft board overall prospect rank: #106

Draft board quarterback rank: #6

Overall rating: 69*

2/26/10: McCoy measured in at 6-1 at his weigh in. Might as well add that to the list of reasons why he won’t work out in the NFL, no experience in a pro style offense, a weak arm, and now a small frame.

1/16/10: A proven winner with a very weak arm by NFL standards. He’ll fit a spread style offense in the NFL well and to his luck, more and more teams are switching to the spread in the NFL, but he’s still not a good fit for a good majority of the NFL scheme despite his amazing accomplishments in college.

Update (11/2/09): Throws like a girl, but he’s a smart quarterback and extremely accurate. Reminds me of Trent Edwards in that respect.

            6/14/09: The first person people compare Colt McCoy to is Alex Smith, a former #1 pick turned bust. Like Smith did, McCoy plays in an offense in college where the majority of the snaps are taken from shotgun, and not from center. Like Smith did, McCoy is putting up amazing numbers in this gimmick offense. However, I like McCoy’s chances of being a successful NFL quarterback more than I like Smith’s. Smith was an absolute worst case scenario. When Smith declared, he was a junior who had started a mere 26 games. When McCoy declares, he will be a 5th year senior who has started, barring injury, 52 games. Smith was drafted by a team that threw him out there in his first season, without giving him proper time to learn the Niners’ pro style offense. Smith was thrown out there to be the savior and had very little around him. Smith then had to learn a different offensive system every year because the Niners kept changing offensive coordinators. So you have Smith, a quarterback who had very little college experience, comes into an offense that he is not given proper time to learn, has mediocre talent around him, and then every summer, he has to learn a different offense, without fully mastering the whole taking snaps from under center thing, because of the coaching changes. McCoy runs a similar offense to Smith in college, yes, but that does not mean he’s doomed to be Smith. McCoy has more football experience. McCoy is a better learner than Smith. McCoy is not necessarily going to be drafted into the worst possible situation. In fact, and this was not the case when Smith came into the league, several teams actually use college style offenses in the pros, including the Chiefs and Broncos who use it the majority of the time. If I’m the Broncos, who could need a quarterback next season depending on Kyle Orton, how he performs and whether or not he leaves as a free agent, I consider McCoy early in the 2nd round. McCoy comes in, with a great offensive line in front of him, a good running game to support him, good, possibly great receivers, depending on how the Brandon Marshall situation plays out, and has to only learn an offense similar to the offense he ran at Texas, and he’s got it made, he’ll do a great job. If McCoy gets drafted by someone like Seattle in the 2nd round, comes in, sits 2 years behind Matt Hasselbeck, learns an offense, the west coast offense, that, while it is not a college style offense, is not that different. McCoy won’t have to master 5 and 7 step drops, only 3 step drops. McCoy starts in his 3rd year, with what should be a good supporting cast, with full knowledge of the offense, and he can do a good job. However, say McCoy gets drafted by the St. Louis Rams. Unless the Rams somehow pull an NFL caliber starting quarterback out of their ass sometime between now and draft day 2010, McCoy is going to start some time in his first year. He will have a bad supporting cast and will probably, depending on how fast he learns, start playing without having mastered a pro style offense, with 3, 5, and 7 step drops. It could be Alex Smith all over again. Say he gets drafted by Cleveland. If Cleveland struggles, nothing will stop Eric Mangini from doing what he’s wanted to do since he got there, Brady Quinn, goodbye, Derek Anderson, goodbye, and take his own quarterback. If Mangini decides McCoy is that quarterback, that will be very bad. McCoy will likely have to start in his first year, if not right away. The running game is a mess, his receivers could be a big mess depending on how the Braylon Edwards contract negotiations go, the defense is as ugly as Al Davis and just as old. Colt McCoy likely then would become Alex Smith. Basically, in the right situation, McCoy could be a solid NFL quarterback, maybe even better than solid. In the wrong situation, like the one Smith was put into in 2005, McCoy could be the next Alex Smith.

NFL Comparison: Tyler Thigpen

*=For a breakdown of what this means, click here

Colin Kaepernick Scout

 

Quarterback

Nevada

6-5 233

Draft Board Overall Prospect Rank: #81

Draft Board Overall Quarterback Rank: #5

Overall Rating: 72 (mid 3rd)

40 time: 4.53

3/23/11: Kaepernick threw very well. His footwork and his delivery have come a long way from The Senior Bowl, where, at least in the game, he looked very raw. He cemented his status as a 2nd round pick in my opinion. 

2/19/11: 3 players have ever rushed for 20 touchdowns and passed for 20 touchdowns in the same college season, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, and Colin Kaepernick. The reason Kaepernick is not being talked about as a 1st round pick like Tebow was and Newton is, first was his level of competition. Nevada might have beaten Boise State, but they still played in the WAC, which is not the same as playing in the SEC like Tebow and Newton. Kaepernick also is a rawer prospect. He has a wild delivery like Tebow, but not Tebow’s hustle and heart. He played in a very similar scheme to Cam Newton, but his arm isn’t as big as Newton’s, his delivery needs more work than Newton’s, he doesn’t quite have Newton’s speed, and didn’t win like Newton did.

Kaepernick’s stock is on the rise after The Senior Bowl. He was very raw in the game, failing to see open targets and opt to run outside the pocket on almost every snap, but he did a good job of throwing on the run and keeping his eyes downfield. His pocket footwork needs help and he has a tendency to throw off his back foot. His delivery isn’t quite the same as Tebow’s. Some scouts have even said that it reminds them of Philip Rivers and that they wouldn’t touch it. He had the strongest arm at the Senior Bowl, not saying much, but it’s not elite and his short accuracy and footwork need a lot of work.

Kaepernick is probably best off going 2nd or 3rd  round to a team with a low upside starter in place, like say Buffalo will Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cincinnati with Carson Palmer, Seattle with Matt Hasselbeck, Jacksonville with David Garrard, or Arizona, assuming they sign someone like Marc Bulger or Donovan McNabb. He’s not ready to play right away, but with the right coaching, I could see him taking off and being a good starter in his 2nd or 3rd year.

NFL Comparison: Poor man’s Josh Freeman

 

 

Coby Fleener Scout

 

Tight End

Stanford

6-6 247

Draft board overall prospect rank: #28

Draft board overall tight end rank: #1

Overall rating: 81 (Borderline 1st/2nd round)

40 time: 4.45

Games watched: Stanford/ArizonaUSC/StanfordStanford/WashingtonStanford/Oregon,  California/Stanford

Positives

·         6-6 vertical threat

·         End zone weapon (10 touchdowns as a senior, 17 touchdowns from 2010-2011)

·         Catches the ball at its highest point

·         Excellent timed/straight line speed (4.45 40)

·         Has the ability to stretch the seam

·         19.6 yards per catch as a senior

·         Reliable hands

·         Big hands

·         Excellent route runner

·         Underrated blocker

·         Great blocking technique

·         Played in a conservative offense

·         Smart

·         Good weight room strength (27 reps of 225)

·         Probably has the frame to add 10 more pounds of muscle

·         3 year starter

·         Too big for safeties, too fast for linebackers

·         Has all the tools

Negatives

·         Had Andrew Luck throwing him the football

·         Always had the ball thrown to him at the perfect point

·         Was his team’s only good receiver- little competition for balls

·         Low catch totals (13, 21, 28, 34)

·         Light

·         Injury prone

NFL Comparison: Jason Witten

When Jason Witten was coming out of Tennessee, he was an unrefined prospect. He had all the tools, but because of his lack of elite production, as well as the fact that the NFL hadn’t embraced the pass catching tight end yet, he fall to the 3rd round. Fleener is unrefined as well, but he too has all the tools and in a different NFL, that could very well make him a first rounder, an early 2nd rounder at the latest.

Fleener has all the tools and certainly flashes on tape. He’s a big 6-6 tight end, like Witten, and he can go up and catch the ball at its highest point. He has 17 touchdowns in the last 2 years, including 10 this year. He’s got great straight line speed and is a real mismatch in the seam, because he’s too big for safeties and too fast for linebackers. He’s a great route runner and uses his body well.

He’s also an underrated blocker. He comes from a conservative offense where you have to be able to block to get on the field and even though he’s undersized at 245 pounds, he’s got great blocking technique. He’s been well coached and he has the frame to probably put on another 10 pounds comfortably, which will help him be a true 3 down tight end at the next level.

His upside is that of Jason Witten. Witten has been one of the best pass catching tight ends in the league for years and he’s also an above average run blocker. Fleener will probably have to bulk up the 6-6 265 that Jason Witten is at, or at least close. He is also a risk, however. He’s had the luxury of having Andrew Luck throwing him the football for 3 years, but has never had more than 34 catches in a season. He did a lot with those 34 catches (667 yards and 10 touchdowns), but with Andrew Luck throwing him the football, I would definitely have liked to see more than 34 catches.

Both Orson Charles and Dwayne Allen had significantly more than 34 catches this season (45/574/5 and 50/598/8 respectively). Fleener is a better blocker than Charles and faster than Allen and has more upside than either, but he was less productive with a better quarterback. Charles and Allen are probably safer picks, but Fleener will probably be the first tight end off the board, though not necessarily in the 1st round. 

 

Coby Fleener

Today at The Football Fan Spot, we have Coby Fleener, a tight end prospect out of Stanford. He spent 4 years at Stanford as a tight end, starting for 3 years from 2009-2011. He and Andrew Luck hooked up for a team leading 10 touchdowns in 2011 and 17 touchdowns over the last 2 seasons. His 34 catches for 667 yards in 2011 put him 2nd on the team.

At The Combine, Fleener benched 27 reps of 225 at 6-6 244 and though he did not run because of an ankle injury, he is expected to run in the 4.5s or 4.6s at his Pro Day, which would make him one of the fastest tight ends in this draft class. He’s a borderline first round pick who probably won’t make it out of the first 40 picks. He has a bright future ahead of him. Today, he is here to tell us about his game and his Pre-NFL Draft experience.

The Football Fan Spot: First, a little bit of background stuff, when did you start playing football? Favorite team to watch?

Coby Fleener: I started playing in high school. Growing up in Chicago, I was a fan of the Bears, but I wouldn’t call myself a die-hard.

TFFS: It’s been roughly 2 or 3 months since the end of your season. In what ways, if any, do you think you’ve improved since the end of the season?

CF: I have been trying to get healthy and strong, as I suffered an ankle injury at the end of the year. It has been tough to not be able to train fully with my other teammates trying for the NFL, but my ankle is getting stronger.

TFFS: Which NFL teams have met with you up to this point?

CF: I have met with a lot of NFL teams and nearly all of the tight end coaches. I have only visited one facility thus far.

TFFS: I have always found it very interesting to ask prospects what round they believe they will be drafted in, so, honestly, putting aside where you think you should be drafted, what draft range do you think you will be drafted in?

CF: I don’t know where I will be drafted, but my goal is to be drafted as high as possible.

TFFS: You didn’t get a chance to run or do drills at the Combine, but you have a Pro Day coming up. How have you been preparing for that? How is the ankle healing?

CF: I am still working on my ankle, and trying to make it strong. I’ve been practicing the various drills and running routes in addition to weight room work.

TFFS: Players always seem to get asked at least one weird question at The Combine. What was the weirdest one you were asked and how did you answer?

CF: The weirdest that I can remember is, “When was the last time you did something wrong, knowing it was wrong, and you did it anyway?” I explained the story of me sneaking out of the house in high school. In hindsight, speeding was probably a more recent answer.

TFFS: Give me a little bit of a self scouting report, what do you say you could contribute most to an NFL team? What is your biggest weakness or thing you need to work on most?

CF: I think I can contribute in a variety of ways offensively and on special teams. I think every part of my game could be improved. I’m excited to just solely focus on football.

TFFS: A lot of rookies have to play significant amounts of time on special teams. What is your experience playing on special teams?

CF: I have played a good amount on almost all special teams. Most of my special teams playing was done in my first few years at Stanford, but I played KOR every year during my college career.

[switch_ad_hub]

[switch_ad_hub]

[switch_ad_hub]

Close Win Some Losses

By Sean Geddes 

Even though this will go down as a “W” in the win/ loss column, it was not without significant losses to the Steelers.

Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.

Max Starks, the Steelers starting tackle for both Superbowl wins this decade (once at right and once at left) has been lost for the season with a disc injury in his neck. This is a big blow for the Steelers, as it is at what could be argued is their thinnest position on the entire team.

To fill the massive 6’8” void, the Steelers activated Chris Scott (who is only 6’5”) from the Physically Unable to Perform list. Scott was the Steelers fifth round draft choice this past year out of Tennessee, and was originally injured this summer while working out prior to training camp.  The other Scott, Jonathan, will be the Steelers starting left tackle going in to this week’s match up against the New England Patriots.

Special teams player Will Allen, a safety, suffered a concussion Sunday. Back up running back Mewelde Moore also suffered a concussion, as did RB/ FB Isaac Redman. These three will all undergo cognitive function testing in the next few days, in an attempt to gauge their availability for Sunday.

Should Allen be unable to go, the team will rely on Ryan Mundy to back up both safety spots, but could possibly dress Keenan Lewis, who has been inactive for all of this season. The two running back’s possibly missing this game could be even more detrimental to the squad, as the only other backs available to the Steelers are rookie Jonathan Dwyer, who hasn’t suited up this year either. There is a chance we could activate Frank Summers from the practice squad, but that seems to be a more unlikely scenario.

Other injuries (yeah, seriously, there is more) include Brett Keisel, who left the game re-aggravating his hamstring injury. His status is up in the air for Sunday. Chris Kemoeatu strained his knee and did not return, his status is uncertain. Rookie stud Maurkice Pouncey left the game but returned. Coach Tomlin said he’ll be ready come game time. He also added Heath Miller has fluid in his knee, and he’ll be limited this week in practice.

Coming off of a Monday night game, and having a short week, combined with playing a solid New England Patriots team, it is imperative that all hands be on deck for this one. It is a conference game with playoff implications. This is a game you want to have a good showing in.

Go back to Steelers Fan Spot 

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/